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Re:(erielack) Erie in Jersey City
Rick:
Having seldom wandered of the "reservation" (it was Jersey City. One didn't go there; one went THROUGH there) I have no idea where Pavonia was/is. I know there is a Pavonia Avenue.
The Erie terminal was on the waterfront, while the Tubes were well inland to the west. At Hoboken, they make a turn to the east to a stub end terminal beneath the Lackawanna platforms, with access to the train concourse at the north end only, as I recall. Now it may be different.
At the Erie, the Tubes were far to the west. Access was, as I have said, through a full (but low-ceilinged) concourse at the west end of the Erie platforms, complete with train board, train gates, and the colored lights indicating route. This concoursd connected to the Tubes via a long, wide, low-ceilinged passageway with stairs to thr Tube platforms at the west end.
On the morning inbound trips, riders for the Tubes loaded onto the rear of the train, to be close to the stairs at the west end of the Erie platforms. Ferry riders went to thr front, for obvious reasons. Upon arrival at Jersey City, it was down the stairs, through the conourse and passageway and down more stairs to the Tube platform.
Then you had to be sure to get the right train. The Erie station on the Tubes was south of the wye to H&M's 33rd Street line, so you had to be sure to get on a Hoboken-Hudson Terminal (Manhattan) train and not a 33rd St.-Journal Square (Jersey City) one.
Combining all that with the morning paper (The Times or Herald ribune) and the walk at the Manhattan end to the office started the day with a pretty good mental and physical workout, five (or six) days a week. There weren't many fat people.
Going home was the quick march to Hudson Terminal or 33rd St., onto the Tube train (careful at 33rd St to get onto a Journal Sq. Train, not Hoboken), off at "Erie", quick march up the stairs and along the pedestrian subway, burst out onto the sub-concourse, look for your two blue lights, up some more stairs, and onto your Stillwell -- which had spent the day getting ready for you by sitting in the hot sun.
At least the Tubes were cool -- kind of -- but they smelled funny. Still do, apparently, according to a recent article in The Times.
Randy Brown
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Randy,
In what direction was the Erie station from Pavonia? Was it south along what's called Washington Blvd.?
Rick
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