Re: (erielack) Suburban Fares Then and Now

[Bruce <qc_@_comcast.net>]

1963 gas was 25 cents a gallon, I did not smoke but I do remember when 
the price of cigarettes went up from 25 cents a pack in machines. Three 
pennies were taped to the bottom of the pack in machines which were set 
to take 30 cents, so the real price became 27 cents.
Also SEPTA [Pennsylvania] and New Jersey had the option of using 
something called "Amtrak Commuter" which never happened since both NJ 
and PA opted to run their own "railroad".  Maryland had BO and Amtrak 
run their trains at least for a while and is now trying to have a 
contractor based in France?  I don't know the details.
Anyway even at current fares, cost of operation in covered by only about 
50%  and zero capital costs are covered.  The taxpayers pick up half the 
cost of running the trains and all the cost of buying them.  And NY 
riders pay their state and city income tax to NY and NYC.  Generally 
they pay NOTHING in state income tax to Trenton.

On 7/30/2011 5:54 PM, bill guimes wrote:
> Back in the old days, passenger losses were made up for by freight 
> profits.
>
>    Conrail asked to be relieved of the commuter operations out of 
> northern NJ and Philly. That's how we got NJT Rail and SEPTA.
>
>    In 1963, how much was a gallon of gas? Pack of cigarettes? You have 
> to factor in inflation.
>
>    Bill
>
> -----Original Message----- From: MARTY HARRISON
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> Subject: Re: (erielack) Suburban Fares Then and Now
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> The true test is to factor in the inflation rate
>
>
>
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>  To: "erielack‎" <erielack_@_lists.railfan.net>
>  Subject: (erielack) Suburban Fares Then and Now
>  Date: Jul 30, 2011 2:39 PM
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>
>  Once state agencies REALLY got involved with
>  running suburban passenger service -- after Congress
>  legislated Conrail out of the business -- fares began
>  to climb.
>
>  In 1963 an EL Morristown-Hoboken rider paid $1.45
>  one-way or $30.75 for a monthly. In 2003 the fares
>  from Morristown were $6.90 for a one-way and $193.00
>  for a monthly. Today they’re $10.25 one-way and
>  $291.00 for a monthly.
>
>  tommy meehan
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