RE: (erielack) Two killed by passenger trains within 48 hours

[Charles_Walsh_@_Berlex.com]

Paul,

Please re-read my message.  I said that the local school system should have
brought the E-L into the school if the E-L was willing or able to do such a
program.  I was not conjecturing what the program would have been...BUT in
retrospect as an adult now looking back I can tell you the message that
would have been most helpful to kids back in those days.  I never said that
the E-L should or shouldn't have done anything.

Chuck



                                                                                                                               
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                                               RE: (erielack) Two killed by passenger trains within 48 hours                   
                                                                                                                               



Chuck Walsh commented:

> Anyway, what they should have done was gotten
> someone from the E-L
> to come in and tell the kids how dangerous it is, how you can
> get killed,
> but if you're stupid enough to walk on an active railroad
> always be looking
> behind you as well as in front of you.

Now you're offering pure conjecture and opinion about "what an EL safety
program should have been."   Conjecture is interesting, to be sure, but I'd
rather know, what did the EL do in terms of safety programs? We all know
toward the end they went crazy with their "Safety First" logo on freight
cars and locomotives, so they must have gotten on a safety kick
(internally, at least)




> I'm wondering if the
> E-L had such a
> program?  I know we have Operation Lifesaver now but, correct
> me if I'm
> wrong, doesn't that focus on grade crossing safety rather
> than safety on
> the rest of the railroad?

To the best of my knowledge, there were few, if any, safety programs back
then. The reason is probably because people had more respect for railroads
back then, whereas today they're perceived as a nuisance (and today's kids
are less disciplined, IMHO)

Regardless of all this, the original post was about a suicide death on NJT.
NO EL RELEVANCE! If the question was "Did the EL ever have a safety
program, a la Operation Lifesaver?", then I don't think people would have
had a problem. That was the issue with the original post.

             - Paul







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