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(erielack) Re: Marine equipment

Tony,

I certainly don't claim to be an expert on marine equipment, what I have 
learned I directly attribute to people like Baxter, Flagg, Tabor and 
others along with various research sources. So what I pass on of any use 
  is a direct result of others willingness to share what they know.

Now...the Walthers float bridge is I believe loosely or closely based on 
the Lehigh Valley float bridges if I remember correctly. Parts of it 
might be usable and adaptable for making a more Erie or DL&W correct 
bridge. How successful that might be I can't say.

Walthers tug is based on the LV or CNJ diesel tug. Sheepscot Scale Products:

http://www.sheepscotscale.com/portal/index.php

offers detail parts and an on line article about how to improve its 
appearance (using some of their products of course). There was also an 
article in RMC or MR a couple years back about back dating the tug into 
a steam tug if I recall.

Sylvan Scale Models:

http://www.isp.on.ca/Sylvan/product.htm

is offering a generic steam tug kit now, but I don't know how close it 
is to anything the Erie or the DL&W used. I need to check this one out 
further.

  There was a model of the DL&W's ocean going tug Lackawanna produced in 
HO scale and I have seen the kit still available, but that isn't much 
help to New York Harbor operations. Particularly after 1917 or so.

The Walthers car float...well until something else becomes available or 
is someone decides to scratch build one, it will be an acceptable 
substitute. There are a couple of people who offer detail parts for the 
kit which enhance the appearance.

Probably the most interesting marine models to come out in a while are 
the American Model Builders laser cut kits for the covered barge and 
open deck scow.

http://www.laserkit.com/laserkit.htm

The covered barge is based on a New York Central design, but compared to 
what else one might find, it would be a reasonably good stand in for a 
DL&W covered barge. Paint it and letter it and most people wouldn't know 
the difference.

The open deck scow is a pretty good stand in for the DL&W lighters which 
had their hoists and booms removed. Again, add some DL&W specific 
details like the number board on top of the cabin, a few other minor 
additions and you have a good stand in for one of these. I just picked 
up one of these kits and it is in the stack. Probably it will get built 
around 2012. :)

The search continues for prototype information. A good source is of 
course the Rail-Marine Information Group John Teichmoeller runs:

http://www.trainweb.org/rmig/

Regards,

Will

tonyhorn_@_earthlink.net wrote:
> Will:
> 
> Some of us have a strong interest in the NYC marine operations.  Your description of the different types of equipment is helpful.
> 
> We have been looking for models and/or plans.  Two of us (SCL and myself) have located plans for an Erie ferry (+pictures) at the Hagley Museum and Library in Wilmington, DE.  Prior to leaving on a holiday trip from which I have just returned, I was on the net looking for information.
> 
> I found that Frenchman River Models has some new marine railroad in production or planned and wondered if they might be close to anything the Erie (EL) used.  One is a 2 Track Covered Station Float.  (Check it out at www.frenchmanriver.com/Frenchman%River/2track.htm)  They are also listing a 3 Track Car Float, Float Bridge, and Stick Lighter as future models, but no pictures to see what they might be.
> 
> Do you know if the Walthers RR barges and float bridge are close to anything that might be used to represent Erie/EL on model railroads?
> 
> Of course, for accuracy, there is the Overland brass model of the tug, Marion, if you can find and afford one.
> 
> An interesting site I found on prototype information is at www.worldshippingny.com/elferry.html
> 
> Another is at http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collid=pphhphoto&fileName=nj/nj0000/nj0057/photos/browse.db&action=browse&;
> 
> Tony Horn
> ELHS #2
> 

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