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RE: (erielack) DL&W HW Parlor Cars

 

Bill,

 

Since Julia Ward Howe and Virginia Dare were plan 3416A, the same as the
Walthers kit, I think the kit is a good starting point. The LIRR photo shows
that the compartment side of the actual car is a good match for the kit
(ignoring the modernized windows- you can see where the originals were). It
does look like the A/C duct is on the wrong side of the car in the kit, and
the A/C type should be ice rather than mechanical, but I suspect those will
be easy to fix. 

 

I'm still trying to find an early 50's photo of either of these (I haven't
gone through my book collection yet), so I can't say for sure when they were
painted. The 1954 roster lists them as GMY rather than green
(http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/pax/dlw-1954.html). 

 

The 1950's public timetable (http://raildata.railfan.net/dlw/dlwhome.html)
lists parlor cars being used on the eastbound Phoebe Snow (#6) and the
westbound Twilight (#5). I don't recall many Phoebe Snow pictures with other
than GMY equipment, so they were probably painted right around 1949 with the
introduction of that service. But, I haven't found a photo yet.

 

Michael

 

 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: erielack-owner_@_lists.elhts.org [mailto:erielack-

> owner_@_lists.elhts.org] On Behalf Of William E. Botkin

> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 9:42 PM

> To: Michael Mang; Erie Lackawanna List

> Subject: (erielack) DL&W HW Parlor Cars

> 

> Michael and all,

> 

> Posted is a photo of the Walthers 28-1 parlor car.  Does anyone know if

> this

> the one that matches the DL&W "Julia Ward Howe" or "Virginia Dare"?  No

> one

> has turned up a photo of either in DL&W service as yet.

> 

> Based on the feedback thus far, it appears as though both may have been

> repainted in GMY about the time of the introduction of the LW equipment in

> 1949.

> 

> Does any one know for sure?  What trains were these used on?

> 

> Thanks.

> 

> Bill Botkin



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