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Just let me know where it will be so I can plan a trip.

Fred Stratton
MP. 7.2 NS Asheville line
Salisbury, NC


>From: "Stephen Twarogowski" <stwarogowski_@_windstream.net>
>Reply-To: "EL Mail List" <erielack_@_lists.elhts.org>
>To: "EL Mail List" <erielack_@_lists.elhts.org>
>Subject: RE: (erielack) Archives
>Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:17:20 -0500
>
>Bill Hallstead wrote:
>
> > I don't see what the problem would be in moving the collection
> > from Akron  to
> > Scranton which is the former "heart" of the Lackawanna anyway. At
> > least in
> > Scranton it is in "home" territory
>
>I sometimes forget that the EL ceased to exist west of Hornell.  Erie
>Railroad?  Must have been a regional or a shortline.  So, using this logic
>of "heart of" or "home territory", we should simply find the midpoint.
>First, let's look at home territory.  I'd say "home" is where you are 
>based.
>We all have a home.  It's our headquarters.  Ah... it's all becoming 
>clearer
>now... that would be Cleveland, headquarters of the EL (after all, we are
>talking about the ELHS collection).  It's about in the middle.  We can do
>"heart of" by milepost or we can do it based on today's highway system.
>Using the highway system and a quick hit on Google Maps, the distance
>between Croxton and Chicago is 785 miles.  Therefore, the midpoint is 392.5
>miles.  Which, ironically enough, is Niles, Ohio.  For you guys out east,
>Niles is a city in Ohio, located a few miles west of Youngstown on the 1st
>subdivision of the Mahoning Division.  Youngstown was a city that made
>steel.  Lots of steel.  And a lot of money for the EL.  The EL passed
>through Niles, there was a yard, Republic Steel was there, a branch line
>origination, lots of local industry...  Seems pretty ideal.  And, luckily
>for the guys out east, Niles is a mile closer to Croxton than it is to
>Chicago.  Sounds fair, right?  I mean, after all, I am thinking about the
>"heart" of the Erie Lackawanna, not just one or the other.
>
>OK, that was all tongue-in-cheek sarcasm, but there is some truth behind it
>based on some of the criteria list members have put forward.  Isn't it
>enough that the board has told us what is going on through the Extra Board?
>That's every 3 months.  Do people expect to be told of every phone call,
>meeting, email, letter, fax or whatever else the board does?  They will
>never get anything done if they have to do that.  I think it is pretty
>evident they are doing their work.  Do people think they are going to wait
>until May 29th, load a truck at Akron with the ELHS collection and ask
>themselves "Now what the hell are we supposed to do with all this stuff?"  
>I
>am a Cleveland native and lived in Akron up until 5 months ago, the archive
>was a 5 minute drive.  I went a bunch of times.  If I still lived there and
>it moved to Scranton or wherever the board deems necessary, then so be it.
>As long as it is accessible, cataloged, and on the road to reasonable
>digitization is what matters most.  If that means staying at Akron, ok.  If
>that means Cleveland State in the Special Collections Library, so be it.  
>If
>it means Scranton, I guess I'll quit the ELHS and join the Pennsy 
>society...
>Ok, that's a joke.  Scranton would be fine too.  There's no place for
>territorial pissing contests or "my railroad is better than your railroad"
>chest thumping.  How ridiculous is that?  How old are we that we resort to
>that sort of reasoning?  Next thing you know the Lackawanna guys will be
>suicide bombing Erie guys, yelling out as they ignite their bombs
>"Lackawanna management was better than Erie management!"  And then Pennsy
>guys will have to come in as a peace keeping force.  Anyway, what was I
>talking about?  Oh, geographic convenience would be great for all.  But 
>it's
>not going to happen.  Some one is going to be far away, and thus, ticked
>off.  Would guys in NJ like it if the archive was placed in Huntington, IN?
>Probably about as much as guys that live in Huntington would like it if it
>was in Scranton.  I live in the south now.  No matter where it is located 
>it
>is going to be far away.  But the internet is eliminating borders.  And
>that, to me, is the most important criteria - where does our collection
>stand a chance of being digitized, and made accessible electronically, 
>best?
>And what location has the capacity to fulfill member requests?  Not that it
>is central to some geographic part of one railroad or the other.  After 
>all,
>it is the ELHS collection, not the L or E collection.
>
>Have a nice day,
>Steve
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WFHIV_@_aol.com [mailto:WFHIV@aol.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 8:47 PM
> > To: erielack_@_lists.elhts.org
> > Subject: (erielack) Archives
> >
> >
> > I don't see what the problem would be in moving the collection
> > from Akron  to
> > Scranton which is the former "heart" of the Lackawanna anyway. At
> > least in
> > Scranton it is in "home" territory and under the care and
> > vigilance of someone
> > who knows what it is. And Pat McKnight would be a great person to
> > look after
> > it.  That's my "two cents" worth.
> >
> > Bill Hallstead
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