Ed, A quick calculation. Each Lackawanna - CNJ coach would be about 60 tons, the Business Car about 100 tons and the lightweight sleeper 66 tons for a total train weight of around 593 tons. I am going to make a guess, but CN 3254 is about the same size as a Lackawanna 1258 series Mikado? If someone has the tonnage rating for this series of engines from East Stroudsburg to Pocono Summit - please post it to the list. For example, in Lackawanna Employee timetable no. 108, effective 2:01 A.M., October 30, 1955, page 134, the single unit tonnage rating for 810 to 820 E8s from Gravel Place to Pocono Summit was 540 tons. Lackawanna E units were rated at 2,250 horsepower with 53,000 lbs of starting tractive effort. With this in mind, one E8 would not have been able to start 593 tons at M.P. 97.4 either. My thinking is here that the CN Mikado may also not have had enough tractive effort to start the train at 97.4. JJBoehner Signals; Station Inn; Steam Trains; Horns Whistles Subject: [DelawareLackawanna] History November 3, 2007. History repeated itself today at Devil Hole curve on the former Lackawanna. As part of Railfest in Scranton, Steamtown ran CNR. Mikado 3254 down to the Delaware Water Gap. She returned unassisted facing west. However, she lost it on Devil's Hole curve, and couldn't get the train started. The two Delaware Lackawanna C-425's, 2452, and 2461 were used to assist the 3254 to Tobyhanna, where they were cut off, as the 3254 soldiered on to Steamtown a little late in arriving. This very same thing occurred back at the same place with Nickel Plate Berkshire 759 in the 1970's She too lost it at Devil's hole, and had to be assisted by two GP-9's dispatched from Scranton! It was said then that someone greased the rails! Hummmm. Ed K. cp Laurel Run The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List Sponsored by the ELH&TS http://www.elhts.org To Unsubscribe: http://lists.elhts.org/erielackunsub.html ------------------------------
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