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(erielack) Re: LV-D&H Trains

Bob -

 From "A Century of Progress," the centennial history of the D&H,

"On (September 28, 1903) the president (of the D&H) reported that the 
Erie Railroad Company was willing to provide the (D&H) company with 
trackage rights for freight trains between Binghamton and Owego.  By 
reaching Owego, freight could be interchanged directly with the Lehigh 
Valley railroad (sic), and on December 1 this arrangement became 
operative under a contract."

The book is silent on the reason, or on any other deals made between the 
two railroads.  It also does not mention D&H/LV joint run-through 
operation, so that probably occurred after 1923.

The actual interchange was Owego.  The LV operated under the D&H 
trackage rights over the Erie to reach Binghamton.  From the 1920's into 
the early 1960's, the Erie had an intermittent automatic train stop 
system on the Susquehanna Division, and all locomotives operating 
between Susquehanna and Hornell (and I believe also on the Delaware 
Division to Port Jervis) needed ATS equipment.

The D&H maintained two passenger RS-2's with ATS at Binghamton.  One of 
the two made a daily round trip to Albany on passenger trains 205 and 
208, then to Sayre and back every night.  The LV power also needed ATS 
during that period, and I believe they had two or more Alco's that were 
dedicated to the Binghamton trains.

Also at that time, per diem on freight cars was figured on a daily 
basis, from midnight to midnight.  If the headlight of the D&H train 
made it to the LV at Owego before midnight, the LV paid the per diem on 
the cars.  If not, the D&H ate it.  After the D&H entered the LV at 
Owego going west, the cars had been interchanged.  That was not LV 
trackage rights - it was simply a run-through agreement.  And as far as 
the Erie was concerned, the Binghamton-Owego trains were D&H trains, 
regardless of crew or motive power.  I don't know how the D&H paid the 
Erie, but it could have been on a per-car basis.

Gordon Davids

From: "Bob Clegg" <BobcatCS_@_comcast.net>
Subject: Re: LV-D&H Trains; was: RE: (erielack) As long as we're asking 
about track layouts.....

Okay, now I'm really lost.  How did the LV get from Owego to Bingo?  I can
find no record of LV tracks east of Owego.  I thought the rights agreement
was between Erie and D&H.  Was there an trackage rights agreement between
Erie-LV?  All three?  If so, what was it and if not how did this work?

Thanks, but puzzled,

Bob

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