John That statement was one of several mistakes that appear in the book. Several is a LOT better than some of the other EL / DL&W books that Morning Sun has produced and thus I didn't say anything when it came out. There is a lot of information in Vol 1 sooooooooo I guess its ok to cut Bob some slack here. :) FOR THE RECORD, and per that presentation on DL&W concrete towers at the Elmira Convention, :) West End was the first of the similar looking concrete towers. It was a one of kind, and NEVER had a bay window. Also the Statement on page 57 about the standard bay window configuration is pretty miss leading since their are MANY variations amongst the similar looking towers. Seven of the first eight built were one of kind. None were altered, other than the addition put on West End. I don't believe that Roseville Ave tower is visible as stated on Page 80. It would be way off to the left of the photo and around the bend. I've never heard the small building at Murray Hill referred to as a section house on page 84. I always heard it referred to as the freight house. Note the high doorway! The Train Order Offices on page 88 as stated only apply up to 1965. Stirling closed that year, leaving the other five mid line stations to carry the burden of issuing orders. The term we use to remember them by was: Mothers Milk Better By Far, the MMBBF referred to: Murray Hill, Millington, Basking Ridge, Bernardsville, and Far Hills. I may be wrong, but I believe the statement on page 98 that states when the Boonton Line connected with the M&E in 1869 that the realignment between Denville and Dover was built at that time. I think it came more towards the end of the century, but again I'm not going to go start and dig through Tabers Book, or town maps. I may be wrong, but I don't believe the Morris Canal crossed the Lackawanna at Lincoln Park and Mountain View as stated on page 118. There was a lift bridge for the Lackawanna at Mountain View, I know of none at Lincoln Park. One final criticism would be if your going to use the W-1, W-16 etc, building nomenclature through out the book, let the readers know what they are suppose to represent. It's putting in facts that no one knows what they represents. As stated, the percentage of facts given vs the small amount of errors in this book equals a high percentage of correct information, and that's an important criteria in my estamation. As always, if I'm wrong on any of these please let me know. Bob Bahrs In a message dated 1/30/2008 8:48:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jgb_@_dbd01.com writes: In "Lackawanna Facilities" on page 40, it mentions that West End had a bay window when it was built. Why was it removed? It certainly wasn't necessary to get the Bergen jct. machine in there. Thanks, John Bobinyec **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List http://EL-List.railfan.net/ To Unsubscribe: http://Lists.Railfan.net/erielackunsub.html ------------------------------
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