As far as I know, only iron ore was off-loaded at Cleveland for movement to area steel mills as well as down to Youngstown/Pittsburgh area steel mills...there was no movement out of PA of coal loaded onto boats at Cleveland due to no ability to load boats there from loaded hopper cars. The Erie/EL Hulletts weren't used too often (if at all) under Conrail, probably due to the difficulty of getting boats in there off Lake Erie vs. the ex-PRR Whiskey Island facility directly faced the Lake, and easier to manuever a boat into - I recall walking into the Erie/EL facility in '77/'78, and there was only a standing set of hoppers stored and no regular movements on the line down from Randall Yard, with CR abandoning that portion of the line shortly after that, probably corresponding to the end of the Youngstown/Cleveland passenger service on 1/14/77... Rich Behrendt ELHS #384 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet & Randy Brown" <jananran_@_mymailstation.com> To: <erielack_@_lists.railfan.net> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 9:14 AM Subject: Re:Re: (erielack) Erie Cleveland modelers take note! > To return to the original subject of the thread -- did the Huletts load > ships or unload them or both? If unload, what was the cargo? If both, > what was the cargo and did ships take backloads? > > Randy Brown > -------------------------------------------------------------- > NOTE: This message had contained at least one image attachment. To view or > download the image(s), click on or cut and paste the following URL into > your web browser: > > > http://lists.railfan.net/listthumb.cgi?erielack-02-29-08 > > d_dumper_sideview_2.jpg (image/jpeg, 1512x900 312477 bytes, BF: 4.35 ppb) > > Rick, > > Without digging out the files and checking exact dates, the Erie had a > wooden coal trestle in Buffalo on the City Ship Canal from about 1880 to > about 1928, when it burned. They then transferred their coal loading over > to the DL&W dumper at the mouth of the Buffalo River. In addition, the > NYC, Reading, LV, and Pennsy all loaded coal out of Buffalo. The DL&W had > a modern dumper erected in 1917. There was so much capacity in Buffalo > that the Erie decided not to rebuild their facilities. Attached is a > Strong Family photo of the DL&W dumper from the mid-50's. > > Ron Dukarm > > > >> Question: Did the Erie RR load coal at the docks in Cleveland? Did >> they >> have a coal loading facility in Buffalo? >> >> Rick Fleischer > > > The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List > http://EL-List.railfan.net/ > To Unsubscribe: http://Lists.Railfan.net/erielackunsub.html > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.2/1305 - Release Date: 2/29/2008 > 6:32 PM > > The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List http://EL-List.railfan.net/ To Unsubscribe: http://Lists.Railfan.net/erielackunsub.html ------------------------------
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