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RE: (erielack) DL&W Signal



Tom,

I have been looking at Jon Liles Rulebooks on line and the signal shown had
what appeared to be "regular" kinds of aspects: Stop, Proceed at
Restricting, etc.

The DL&W signal shown for train orders had what looks like an illuminated
"O", at least according to the rule book.

I think the photo is actually looking railroad east. According to a labeled
Sanborn map that (I think) Henry posted, the LV runs almost east-west at DM
tower. The DL&W runs in a southwest-northeast direction, and we are looking
up the DL&W line to the northeast, based on where the tower building is
relative to the bridge. If we were looking west, the tower building would be
in front of the LV bridge.

Jon's scan of the DL&W employee timetable also shows that a Local telephone
was installed on "automatic signal 3924", which according to my track
diagram, is pretty close to DM tower and could very well be this signal.

Michael Mang

>
> Schuyler, et al.,
>  
> The DL&W, being a highly developed, innovative and 
> progressive railroad, used lower quadrant semaphore signals, 
> unlike that other railroad the Erie.  The lower quadrant 
> signals were only two position, with red and green lenses.  
> The third hole was typically blanked out or had another red 
> lens placed in it.    The signal is an absolute signal, 
> indicated by the square ends of the blades.  Pointed or 
> fishtail ends would indicate a permissive signal.  In this 
> particular location, perhaps the second large signal on the 
> mast is to give a more specific aspect regarding the Pennsy 
> diamond. But of course, that is mere speculation on my part.
>  
> The dwarf semaphore signal is very interesting.  I think that 
> the purpose of this might be, as someone else on the list 
> speculated, a telephone train order signal.  When the signal 
> displays stop, as in the photo, the train must stop and the 
> conductor call in to the dispatcher to copy new orders.  Very 
> interesting.  Anyone on the list know if that was, in fact, 
> the application here?
>  
> Anyone know of any other locations on the DL&W where this 
> dwarf signal was placed with a T-box for such a purpose?  I 
> know that dwarf semaphores were used within terminals, but 
> I've never seen it out on the road like that.  
>  
> Tom Schmieder>


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