It's hard to believe it would be economical at all to fuel a power plant by truck. I would think it would take hundreds of truckloads a day to get enough when 1 coal train could tide you over for a week.
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From: pat.moore_@_att.net<mailto:pat.moore@att.net>
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Subject: Re: (erielack) Coal, Iron Ore and Steel
Brad,
Yes, there were power plants in the Srn Tier, but by the 70s they weren't getting their coal by rail, at least not the one in Big Flats (which is between Corning and Elmira) or the one near Johnson City. As I recall, the one in Big Flats also trucked their coal up from PA as well. Not sure about the one in Afton on the D&H, but that is off-topic.
-pat
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From: "Bradley Butcher" <llyengalyn_@_hotmail.com<mailto:llyengalyn@hotmail.com>>
>
> According to DeYoungs Volume 2: New York State, EL hauled coal from the
> Pittsburg & Shawmut to Metropolitan Edison's Portland, PA generating stagion,
> just east of the Delaware Water Gap. But I had figured that the southern tier
> had to get its power from a plant somewhere in the area. In my hometown of
> Lincoln, NE there are 3 power plants within an hours drive, in different
> directions.
>
> Brad
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> Subject: RE: (erielack) Coal, Iron Ore and Steel
>
>
> List...
>
> And besides, just how many power plants did the EL serve? I know of the one
> on the east end (someone please insert the details...was it on the B&P?), but
> other than that, did the EL serve any other power plants? There was a small
> power plant in Big Flats, NY, which I think had a spur, but I don't remember
> seeing much in the way of coal delivery in the 70s. If they got delivery by
> rail, it was in small lots and not entire trains, that is for sure. Perhaps on
> the west end?
>
> Beyond that, I think Paul B. is right about the economics of the situation.
> The transport cost east of roughly the Mississippi makes it too expensive when
> you already have Appalachian coal nearby. Yeah, the appalachian stuff might
> have a higher sulphur content, but the power plants in the east are already set
> up to burn the appalachian stuff anyway. The farthest trip for PRB coal that I
> know of was to a Florida Power & Light plant in north Florida. They barged the
> stuff down the Mississippi to the Gulf, then over to Apalachicola, where it was
> railed up the Apalachicola Northern and then east on the old SAL through
> Tallahassee. But, that is getting way off topic. Sorry.
>
> I would like to know about power plants, though.
>
> -pat
>
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> From: "Paul Brezicki" <doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net<mailto:doctorpb@bellsouth.net<mailto:doctorpb@bellsouth.net%3Cmailto:doctorpb@bellsouth.net>>>
> >
> > Very little low sulphur coal from Montana and the PRB has ventured east of
> > Chicago and the Mississippi River. I'm not aware of any movements into the
> > Northeast, but I do know of a couple to the Southeast: a BN-L&N move into
> > Tennessee beginning in 1972, and another over NS to a power plant near
> > Atlanta beginning in the 1990's. The economics of coal transport generally
> > does not support movement over long distances if an alternate source is
> > available more locally. I believe all of this coal is used in power plants
> > and not in steelmaking.
> >
> > Paul B
> >
> > From: "Bradley Butcher"
> <llyengalyn_@_hotmail.com<mailto:llyengalyn@hotmail.com<mailto:llyengalyn@hotmail.com%3Cmailto:llyengalyn@hotmail.com>>>
> > Subject: RE: (erielack) Coal, Iron Ore and Steel
> >
> > I have wondered that as well. I the late 70's would powder river coal have
> > moved east on the EL? And to where?
> >
> > I must admit to some limited knowledge, I do not know of powder river coal
> > runs that far east right now heh. There are a lot of coal fields still in
> > western PA and the Virginias.
> >
> >
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