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Re:(erielack) Con-Cor mP54 Erie coaches



Later pictures on the NYS&W show the an ex-PRR car on trains 904/907/920/915/924 and 929. 

The car was open for passengers on 904 and 929 only -- unless there was good reason; on 907 and 924 the passenger section was opened exclusively for the school children who rode those trains. When the train was discontinued in January 1958, the NYS&W paid for a bus until June (and charged it off to the passenger deficit). 

Cheers,
Jim
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>Erie apparently bought six or seven cars in 1936, numbering them in the 850-856 block.  854 went to NYS&W.  By the time the first issue of the Register of Passenger Train Equipment was spun off from the Official Register of Railroad Equipment, the roster consisted of one car in the 851 block and two cars in the 853-856 block.
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>We have photos of 854 on the Susquehanna (undated) and 855 and 856 in Suffern in 1939.  Undated diagrams show 850, 851 and 856.
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>Photos and diagrams show ten windows to a side, with the cab windows at the baggage end and all end portholes blanked -- except an undated diagram showing 851 with only seven windows at the passenger end.
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>These cars all used the distinctive PRR outside body bearer.  Thy had no electrical  equipment on the roofs or under the body, and only three ventilators per side of the clerestory.
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>Plans the PRR cars appeared in MRR for October, 1969.
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>As an aside, the "54" refers to the car's length -- INSIDE THE BODY.
>We have to be careful when talking passenger car length.  Many railroad references were to the inside of the body, excluding the platforms and vestibules;  these "54-foot" cars actually measured 64 and a half feet over the couplers.
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>Randy Brown
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>Joe:  Erie bought three PB54 combines and numbered them 851, 853 and 856. They were passenger/baggage non-motorized trailers, built along the lines of the mP54s ("m" for motor) for suburban use on the Pennsylvania behind steam locomotives.
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>One of the Erie cars spent much of its life on the Susquehanna, even getting the silver paint scheme.  I don't know how long it lasted there.  The last of the other two, 856, was off the Erie roster by January, 1952.
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>PRR's mP54 class was built as multiple-unit motor cars for suburban service; each car had one 8'8" motor truck and one 8'0" trailer; they were heavy trucks.  The trailer design, without motors, used a much lighter (and lighter looking) truck.  This lighter truck is what came to the Erie.  Will ConCor follow through?
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>Randy Brown
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>Con-Cor has announced end-of-year delivery for PRR mP54 coaches, followed by mBM62 baggage-mail and mP54 combines. All will be offered also lettered for Erie, saying that the Erie was one of the roads that purchased such cars from the PRR. Personally, I know nothing about these cars presence on the Erie. Anyone out there with the info? And were all three car variations on the Erie?
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>Joe Braun
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