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RE: (erielack) Lackawanna Cutoff article-Daily Record

Amazing they can't fit the works into a Genesis carbody stretched like the 
FL9 was - if EMD could do it in one unit in 1960?  Seems to me you just need 
traction motors that run off the third rail or overhead current, and a 
generator that can supply the same power.  Or some combination of 
series/paralell wiring to make it work.

Of course, you could put an electric on the rear and run in push mode, too. 
Couple/uncouple at a station stop when you're standing still anyways.


I think the whole problem with this cutoff is all the overthinking because 
every time you turn around they invent a new reason not to build it.  But 
that's a general problem with almost anything you want to do in this 
country, there's always someone or something standing in your way.  The more 
this is delayed the more even the engineering will cost, because those guys 
are going to Russia and China to build roads there.


Bill K.

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> From: "Gary R. Kazin" <gkazin_@_yahoo.com>
> Subject: RE: (erielack) Lackawanna Cutoff article-Daily Record
>
> - --- On Sun, 6/1/08, Tupaczewski, Paul R (Paul) 
> <paultup_@_alcatel-lucent.com> quoted:
>> > Problem is Neither the Morris and Essex nor the Boonton Line
>> > go to Secaucus (except Midtown direct) ... Cut off trains
>> > will be diesel and go to hoboken unless NJT gets dual modes
>> > however transfers at Newark Broad Street or Summit on the M&E
>> > div can also get you there
>
>> NJT is apparently putting together a bid request for a dual-mode
>> diesel/electric unit for this service (according to X2200
>> South magazine)...
>
> The request was issued last year and got NO responses, then was reissued 
> and got ONE response, not GE or EMD.  A few years ago, NJT had worked with 
> GE on an AC "Genesis III" locomotive.  GE said they could not fit all the 
> equipment into the space available within an ALP-type car body and that it 
> would be grossly in excess of allowable axle loadings.  They did say they 
> could do it in an articulated locomotive that would be over 100 feet long, 
> which would take up TWO car lengths at New York...
>
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