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RE: (erielack) DLW Cabbage

Actually, Todd, I think that specific map was from the transaction transferring that line to . . .
some other company.  Either Conrail, or the Susquehanna.  Note the outlines and the annotations
"Carrier Land Shown Red"   "Non-Carrier " " Brown" and so on, along with the black stamp that
obscures the date:  "1918 Appraisal used in Conference"  All that is stamped on an original which
was in somebody's files for decades.  I think that's actual blue print paper, and I hope that Frank
will keep it away from sunlight, or he will have a white sheet of paper, an effect I've seen happen
in two days!  I think those stamps were applied around 1976 or so.  It might have been later because
the settlement of the "EL Estate" dragged on for quite a few years after the formation of Conrail.
The EL Estate declined the first offer (and quite a few more after that) made to pay for the lines,
equipment and all that.  The final settlement was MUCH higher.  There actually was a market for EL
Stock, which lasted (I think) into the early 80s, until the settlement was finally achieved and the
result distributed to the stockholders.  The price of the stock was very high and very little of it
changed hands.

The Val Maps made for appraisal were done by Federal order.  Virtually every single mile of every
common carrier in the United States was mapped, along with voluminous notes, photographs, and other
documentation.  The quantity of everything in every building was surveyed and recorded, down to the
number of kegs of nails, the number of pads of paper, pencils, etc., etc.  The railroads knew a good
deal when they saw one; they got the maps and many roads kept them updated.  That may not have been
done in the case of this particular line, or the transaction was strictly about the land, so
improvements didn't much matter.  Spurs were often put in with the track owned by the business it
served, even, in some cases, the switch owned by the business, or having been paid for by the
business.

SGL

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Stearns [mailto:toddsyr_@_twcny.rr.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 6:32 PM
> To: EL Mail List
> Subject: Re: (erielack) DLW Cabbage
> 
>  I believe your map was from the Syracuse Binghamton & N.Y. era whereas the
> sauerkraut plant opened circa 1940.
> 
> Todd K. Stearns
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adams, Frank P" <frank.p.adams_@_verizonbusiness.com>
> To: "EL Mail List" <erielack_@_lists.railfan.net>
> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 6:12 PM
> Subject: RE: (erielack) DLW Cabbage
> 
> 
> > >And perhaps some of the horseradish went to Gold's in Brooklyn -- which
> > was one of the last customers on the South Brooklyn Railway under the
> > Culver El on McDonald Avenue in Brooklyn.
> >
> > I think we mean sauerkraut.   Horseradish comes from that root
> > vegetable.   On the notes I took while at Steamtown (thank you again
> > Pat) I wrote "cabbage plant".  Alas I can't find the plant (sauerkraut
> > factory), only the cabbage houses.  Probably I was mistaken in my notes.
> >
> > Frank
> 
> 
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