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RE: (erielack) Named Freight Trains

Gee Walt, do we even want to know what a Binghamton-Scranton train had for a 
nickname?

Lots of things picked up goofy nicknames back in the day... coming from the 
train symbol makes the most sense to me.


Bill K.

- ----- Original Message ----- 
> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:04:10 -0500
> From: Walter Smith <wsmith5957_@_hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: (erielack) Named Freight Trains
>
> Whatever, BUT, the utica job WAS known as the BULL...............(both 
> ends). Probly from it's numbering..........BU 11  & UB22.  At least that's 
> what those of us who worked there called it.....The Utica 'bull'.
>
> Regards,
>
> Walt Smith> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 06:43:20 -0500> From: 
> g.davids_@_verizon.net> Subject: Re: (erielack) Named Freight Trains> To: 
> erielack_@_lists.railfan.net; rdukarm@roadrunner.com; toddsyr@twcny.rr.com> 
>  > Ron / Todd -> > The term "Wild Cat" was a common slang reference to an 
> extra train. Maybe there was a local variation, but I suspect that either 
> the reporter or the type setter turned a cat into a rat.> > I have seen an 
> old train order from the D&H in the 1870's reading something like "Engine 
> 10 Jones run wild Mechanicville to Schenectady and meet Engine 11 Smith at 
> Elnora." "Run wild" predated "run extra," and the trains were often called 
> "wild cats." It was also common to name the conductor in train orders at 
> the time.> > I can understand why "wild" was changed to "extra," 
> considering the connotation of the terms in the minds of the public.> > 
> I'm sure that "Scranton Bull" was not the official symbol for a 
> Utica-Scranton train. The DL&W would have called it, officially, so!
>
> mething like US-2. In 1967, the Utica-Binghamton train, the only 
> pre-arranged southbound freight from Utica, was UB-22. There were other 
> local names for freight trains. The Ordinary from Croxton via the Main 
> Line (Paterson and Middletown) to Port Jervis was called "The Paterson 
> Gang." The local on the upper end of the New Jersey and New York RR was 
> "The Hayshaker."> > Gordon Davids> > List,> > Last week I came across a 
> Buffalo newspaper article from November 21, 1890 > where an engineer ran 
> his train into a standing work train inside East > Buffalo yard limits. 
> While giving testimony he referred to his train as a > "Wild Rat", i.e., a 
> train without a schedule. Never heard that one before.> > Ron Dukarm > > > 
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