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RE: (erielack) Named Freight Trains

Hear of The Hayshacker on NJ&NY Line? And why was t called that and still today on NS? It use to be WPSF-25 wasn't it?
 
Jerome...New Haven Region

- --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Bill K. <pontiac_@_dreamscape.com> wrote:

From: Bill K. <pontiac_@_dreamscape.com>
Subject: RE: (erielack) Named Freight Trains
To: erielack_@_lists.railfan.net
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 6:08 AM

Gee Walt, do we even want to know what a Binghamton-Scranton train had for a
nickname?

Lots of things picked up goofy nicknames back in the day... coming from the
train symbol makes the most sense to me.


Bill K.

- ----- Original Message ----- 
> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:04:10 -0500
> From: Walter Smith <wsmith5957_@_hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: (erielack) Named Freight Trains
> 
> Whatever, BUT, the utica job WAS known as the BULL...............(both
ends). Probly from it's numbering..........BU 11  & UB22.  At least
that's what those of us who worked there called it.....The Utica
'bull'.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Walt Smith> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 06:43:20 -0500> From:
g.davids_@_verizon.net> Subject: Re: (erielack) Named Freight Trains> To:
erielack_@_lists.railfan.net; rdukarm@roadrunner.com; toddsyr@twcny.rr.com> 
> Ron / Todd -> > The term "Wild Cat" was a common slang
reference to an extra train. Maybe there was a local variation, but I suspect
that either the reporter or the type setter turned a cat into a rat.> > I
have seen an old train order from the D&H in the 1870's reading
something like "Engine 10 Jones run wild Mechanicville to Schenectady and
meet Engine 11 Smith at Elnora." "Run wild" predated "run
extra," and the trains were often called "wild cats." It was also
common to name the conductor in train orders at the time.> > I can
understand why "wild" was changed to "extra," considering
the connotation of the terms in the minds of the public.> > I'm sure
that "Scranton Bull" was not the official symbol for a Utica-Scranton
train. The DL&W would have called it, officially, so!
> 
> mething like US-2. In 1967, the Utica-Binghamton train, the only
pre-arranged southbound freight from Utica, was UB-22. There were other local
names for freight trains. The Ordinary from Croxton via the Main Line (Paterson
and Middletown) to Port Jervis was called "The Paterson Gang." The
local on the upper end of the New Jersey and New York RR was "The
Hayshaker."> > Gordon Davids> > List,> > Last week I came
across a Buffalo newspaper article from November 21, 1890 > where an engineer
ran his train into a standing work train inside East > Buffalo yard limits.
While giving testimony he referred to his train as a > "Wild Rat",
i.e., a train without a schedule. Never heard that one before.> > Ron
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