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Re: Auto-Piggyback; was Re: (erielack) Diamond back cover

Okay, folks, I can put this debate to an end.

I'm in the process of cutting up my collection of old model RR magazines and I came across this one a few weeks ago.

The interested reader may refer to the July 2003 RMC, which had an article titled "Modeling an auto loading facility," by Keith Kohlmann.  The article discusses how American Motors shipped autos by rail from Bain, Wisconsin.  The Reader's Digest condensed version is this...In 1960, AMC started shipping finished automobiles from their plant in Kenosha via the C&NW using auto carriers on flat cars ("auto-piggyback") from a new facility built three miles from the plant out in the countryside near Bain.  The C&NW ran a daily turn out of Proviso Yard to serve the plant.

So, the auto-piggybacks in question would have come from interchange with the C&NW in Chicago.

- -pat moore



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From: "Paul Brezicki" <doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net>
>
> Bruce and List,
> 
> If C&NW was still a co-owner of IHB, interchange involving IHB is a more 
> plausible scenario. It's still possible otherwise, but I think direct 
> interchange would be more likely with TR, in which case C&NW would be listed 
> instead of IHB. After the C&NW divestiture, MILW had a 49% stake, NYC 51%.
> 
> However...there's another interesting tidbit from the April 1966 schedule. 
> NY-99 carried a classification "Empty Auto Carriers via C&NW"; it was taken 
> to 51St and not set off at Hammond. Also, both PB-1 and SC-99 carried a 
> classification "Bain Auto Carriers" via 51St. I can't find anything when I 
> Google "Bain", but Bain, WI is 3 miles S of Kenosha. I believe this is all 
> empty auto rigs going back to AMC in Kenosha, and that at some point in the 
> 60's, Kenosha Motor Transport became Bain Auto Carriers. PB-1 was a PB-99 
> predecessor off D&H, and those auto carriers were returning from the ramp at 
> Albany (Colonie). I'm guessing that SC-99 was returning empties from the 
> Scranton ramp, which implies the eastern PA distribution facility for AMC 
> was at or near Scranton.
> 
> This traffic is interesting because it is very late auto-piggyback, and the 
> empty auto carriers were considered priority moves. AMC may have been the 
> only automaker still using auto-piggyback at this point.
> 
> Paul B
> 
> From: "Bruce Alcock" <nytrr_@_hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: (erielack) Diamond back cover
> 
> ".... Bruce, are you sure it was C&NW and not IHB co-owner Milwaukee Road
> that handled this traffic out of Wisconsin? Interestingly, CNS&M did operate
> a "Truck Ferry" TOFC service between Chicago and Milwaukee beginning in the
> 1930's, but I believe it was discontinued in the 1950's."
> Paul:  Considering that this is information I 'remember' from 40 years ago,
> yes it is possible it was Millwaukee Road.  Thanks for the additional
> information.
>  -bruce
> Bruce G Alcock | OK N-Rail | 405-381-4314 | nytrr_@_hotmail.com
> 
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