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Re: Auto-Piggyback; was Re: (erielack) Diamond back cover

Thanks Pat,

Good timing! The 1966 schedule certainly points to C&NW. Evidently then, 
when the service began in 1960, the move involved IHB between Proviso and 
Hammond. At some point after divestiture of IHB in 1962, the traffic shifted 
to direct interchange via Wood St, which had the added advantage of saving 
the hot 100 train a stop at Hammond. I don't suppose the article mentioned 
anything about the relationship between Kenosha M. T. and Bain Auto 
Carriers?

This operation would be very cool to model, if you could come up with the 
auto carriers and early-mid-60's Ramblers. I'll mention also that in the 
early 1980's, a loaded auto-pig appeared fairly regularly on Conrail TV-79 
out of North Bergen. Are any of you Conrail guys familiar with this?

Paul B

From: pat.moore_@_att.net
Subject: Re: Auto-Piggyback; was Re: (erielack) Diamond back cover

Okay, folks, I can put this debate to an end.

I'm in the process of cutting up my collection of old model RR magazines and 
I came across this one a few weeks ago.

The interested reader may refer to the July 2003 RMC, which had an article 
titled "Modeling an auto loading facility," by Keith Kohlmann.  The article 
discusses how American Motors shipped autos by rail from Bain, Wisconsin. 
The Reader's Digest condensed version is this...In 1960, AMC started 
shipping finished automobiles from their plant in Kenosha via the C&NW using 
auto carriers on flat cars ("auto-piggyback") from a new facility built 
three miles from the plant out in the countryside near Bain.  The C&NW ran a 
daily turn out of Proviso Yard to serve the plant.

So, the auto-piggybacks in question would have come from interchange with 
the C&NW in Chicago.

- - -pat moore

> Bruce and List,
>
> If C&NW was still a co-owner of IHB, interchange involving IHB is a more
> plausible scenario. It's still possible otherwise, but I think direct
> interchange would be more likely with TR, in which case C&NW would be 
> listed
> instead of IHB. After the C&NW divestiture, MILW had a 49% stake, NYC 51%.
>
> However...there's another interesting tidbit from the April 1966 schedule.
> NY-99 carried a classification "Empty Auto Carriers via C&NW"; it was 
> taken
> to 51St and not set off at Hammond. Also, both PB-1 and SC-99 carried a
> classification "Bain Auto Carriers" via 51St. I can't find anything when I
> Google "Bain", but Bain, WI is 3 miles S of Kenosha. I believe this is all
> empty auto rigs going back to AMC in Kenosha, and that at some point in 
> the
> 60's, Kenosha Motor Transport became Bain Auto Carriers. PB-1 was a PB-99
> predecessor off D&H, and those auto carriers were returning from the ramp 
> at
> Albany (Colonie). I'm guessing that SC-99 was returning empties from the
> Scranton ramp, which implies the eastern PA distribution facility for AMC
> was at or near Scranton.
>
> This traffic is interesting because it is very late auto-piggyback, and 
> the
> empty auto carriers were considered priority moves. AMC may have been the
> only automaker still using auto-piggyback at this point.
>
> Paul B
 


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