In a message dated 7/6/2009 10:28:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, schuyler.larrabee_@_verizon.net writes: The writer distinguishes between mills making carbon steel and those making "alloy steel." While I am not convinced that this separation makes complete sense . . . were the mills on the ERIE in Youngstown and elsewhere such that they could be classified as one or the other? Or do we end up with three lists: those that made carbon steel exclusively, those that made alloy steel exclusively, and those that were switch-hitters? SGL ................. At the risk of receiving a rivet from the list owner for being off topic I offer the following from Rick Rowlands. Rick is a steel historian and operates a museum in Youngstown that collects steelmaking equipment. Rick was a huge help to me during the recent writing of STEEL MILL RAILROADS, Morning Sun Books, release date Nov 15, 2009. (shameless plug). SMT The major integrated steel producing plants in the Mahoning Valley District with exception of Sharon Steel (Lowellville and Farrell) were carbon steel producers. Carbon steel is defined as a steel in which carbon and low amounts of manganese and/or silicon are the chief alloys. The vast majority of steel produced in the US during the time of the EL's existence is classified as carbon steel, and used for structural shapes, sheets, plate, pipe, rebar, etc. The production facilities at these integrated steel plants were geared for high levels of production of these basic steels. Alloy steels are generally made in electric arc furnaces and in much smaller tonnages than carbon steel. An EAF has the ability to more closely control the chemical composition of an alloy, something that was very difficult if not impossible to do in an open hearth or BOF. The reason that Sharon Steel is a special case is because both of their plants had open hearths as well as EAFs. A portion of Sharon's production would have included alloy steel. I believe that the EAFs at Lowellville were put in by the Defense Plant Corporation so that Sharon could increase production of a special grade of steel used in WWII infantry helmets. Sharon also did produce a considerable tonnage of carbon steel, as evidenced by the open hearths and later the Kaldo furnaces (a type of BOF) at Farrell. For the layman, to identify a plant that produced alloy steel vs. carbon steel, you must look at the steelmaking furnaces. If the plant had Bessemers, open hearths or BOFs then it made carbon steel. If they had EAFs then they made alloy steel. This does not apply to the time period after the EL's demise however. Rick Rowlands Executive Director Tod Engine Foundation "Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage" 2261 Hubbard Road Youngstown, OH 44505 330-272-4089 _www.todengine.org_ (http://www.todengine.org/) **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585089x1201462806/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List http://EL-List.railfan.net/ To Unsubscribe: http://Lists.Railfan.net/erielackunsub.html ------------------------------
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