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[REPOST] Re: (erielack) The EL Hot 100...honorable mention #13
- Subject: [REPOST] Re: (erielack) The EL Hot 100...honorable mention #13
- From: Paul Tupaczewski <elboontonline_@_gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 07:26:42 -0400
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From: "Rich C" <rhcdmc_@_yahoo.com>
Date: Aug 16, 2017 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: (erielack) The EL Hot 100...honorable mention #13
To: "Patrick Moore" <pat.moore_@_att.net>, "EL Mail List" <
erielack_@_lists.railfan.net>
Cc:
Pat, The Rapido trucks look good to me. Sometimes the perspective in the
photo changes how we compare them.
Rich
On Tuesday, August 15, 2017, 9:20:56 PM CDT, Patrick Moore <
pat.moore_@_att.net> wrote:
Rich...
I am secretly hoping that someone like Cannon & Co. will make some
laser-cut sides for the EL 69000-series boxcars. It really boils down to
needing the sides. We've already got the roof, ends, cushioned
underframe/draft gear, and decals. I wonder about the trucks. The EL
Equipment Diagram book lists them as Barber S-2-A and they obviously have
"solid" or "friction" bearings depending on how you like to describe it.
Kadee doesn't make them. Do the trucks made by Rapido match the ones on
the EL cars? To me, they look kind of "different".
- -pat
On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 9:40 PM, Rich C <rhcdmc_@_yahoo.com> wrote:
Pat & List, There maybe a remote possibility that someone like Moloco will
produce a "similar" kit. Years back Modelers Choice offered "similar" cars.
There kits were mostly laser cut styrene sides. The user would furnish the
ends, roof, trucks and super details. The kits go together very well.
On a side note, notice the friction bearing trucks! The EL, IC, GM&O and a
few others must have gotten a discount on cars with these type of trucks.
In 1966 it became somewhat standard that all new cars come equipped with
roller bearing trucks. I know the EL was becoming cheap, but the other 2
roads flourished. Guess they really do know more than us! More than likely
they were granted friction bearing trucks because of certain hardships.
Rich Christie
On Tuesday, August 15, 2017, 4:06:47 PM CDT, Patrick Moore <
pat.moore_@_att.net> wrote:
List...
Some of you might have noticed a general lack of insulated boxcars in the
EL Hot 100, apart from the ARMH and MHLX cars assigned to haul Miller Beer
and the EFCX Evergreen cars that generally hauled plywood. In fact, the
consist sheet database has almost 1700 insulated boxcars, which is more
than twice as many mechanical reefers in the database. I think the reason
that not many insulated boxcars showed up in the top 100 is that insulated
boxcars were generally built in smaller lots or were broken down into
smaller groups in the Official Railway Equipment Register because of
internal load restraining devices. This was the case with EL insulated
boxcars, also called "grocery cars" by the railroad.
The EL took delivery of 150 insulated boxcars built by ACF in 1967, broken
down into four smaller lots in an overall number series 69000 - 69149.
Some were classified as XL instead of RBL, but all were similar in design,
with offset 10'6" Youngstown plug doors, sides that had eight posts to the
left of the plug door and six posts to the right, ACF Freightsaver
cushioned underframes, and solid bearing trucks. Altogether, the consist
sheet database had 39 examples, which would place this car in the range of
72 to 74 in the EL Hot 100.
Picture...
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/el69069ajs.jpg
Locations...
Most of the RBL cars were in assigned service to food manufacturers like
Del Monte or Campbells for hauling canned goods to food distributors and
supermarket warehouses in the northeast. The XL cars were in assigned
service to Morton Salt or International Salt, for example. A number were
noted going back and forth to Standard Brands in Sherburne, NY. The cars
could be seen in other services at times. For example, one car assigned to
the agent in Bath NY, presumably for hauling wine from Hammondsport, was
caught with a load of furniture from Gunlocke Chair in Wayland, NY, to
Dallas, TX.
Model...
None. This would be a challenge to kitbash and might require
scratchbuilding the sides. One wonders if any other railroads had similar
ACF-built cars.
- -pat
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