From: "Paul R DOT Tupaczewski" paultup AT comcast DOT net
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 20:09:10 -0500
Subject: RE: (erielack) Jersey City/Hoboken ( EL Vet Retires)
"449.jpg" - image/jpeg, 1321x881 (24bit)
Fred Stratton asked:
> One question I have is this, The Erie had a steel
> ramp coming down from the arches/cut into the yard. When was
> this removed? I know the NJ Turnpike ramp to the Holland
> Tunnel is in the same vicinity, when was it built. To the
> best of my knowledge they both coexisted at one time.
If memory serves me, Bill Sheppard's "Tidewater Terminals" book shows the
"Arches" with a single track running through it. I assume this would have
lasted until at least the end of the EL (maybe a little into Conrail as
well) to allow trains to access the Boutell auto unloading facility and a
cold storage warehouse at the former Erie Pavonia Terminal. Or was the
Weehawken branch used to reach this?
Attached are some photos of switcher 449 at the Boutell facility, and facing
towards the arches (note the cold storage warehouse) - both shots taken in
> perk is in looking at an ariel photo of this area (present)
> to the south of the Union Terminal Cold Storage Co., there is
> an elevated section which appears to still have rails on it.
> Was this part of the Erie?
The bridge over Montgomery St. was for the Erie. These tracks led to the
Montgomery Ave. coach yards (to the upper left in this photo, where the
grassy field is). It also connected to the Weehawken Branch roughly under
the Turnpike overhead bridge.
Up until just a few years ago, a signal bridge remained over these tracks,
just to the east of the Montgomery St. bridge and just behind the cold
storage warehouse. It was easily visible from the Turnpike coming into the