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From: Dlw1el2 AT aol DOT com
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 15:20:10 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: (erielack) Steamtown Images--December 22, 2013 (C3746 thru C3750)
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Not sure if this will come through. Area being talked about is in the
lower right.
Bob Bahrs

In a message dated 12/22/2013 2:14:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, writes:

I'd like to see the Val Map, if either of you could post it. Is the val
map DVD on sale on the ELHS website yet?

The other crossing further west that I'm aware of is Clover St, which I
believe would have been the only way for the residents up in the Notch to get
there. It was very, very steep. It was a pedestrian-only crossing when I
was a teenager. Steele St, which parallels the EL from the Morgan Highway,
was built with the expressway to replace the Clover St. Crossing.

Pawnee St. (2 blocks south from Seneca) went up to the tracks when I was a
kid. My Dad said the DL&W/EL trains would drop a bag of mail at Pawnee St.
for the local Postman to deliver mail around the neighborhood. Would any
documents verify that?

Don Liotta

> From:
> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 10:31:08 -0500
> Subject: Re: (erielack) Steamtown Images--December 22, 2013 (C3746 thru
> To:
> Pat and Don
> If you need to see this on a Val Map it's sheet V21 No OML67. The
> on the map, which from the photo's we see as only a dirt lane, is
> St. It eventually connected with Bennett St. The RR would later close
> an I believe another similar xing about a mile west from here. Those
> steep approaches, for horse and buggy's, sleighs and those really early
> automobiles made them accidents waiting to happen.
> Don, the old brick square school house in the one photo, is that the
> you went to? Or was that long gone thanks to the express way?
> Note: The main line signals are still conveying milage via the Old Road.
> Bob Bahrs
> In a message dated 12/22/2013 9:35:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> writes:
> Pat, there's no doubt you would be confused even if you drive the North
> Scranton Expressway everyday. The modern day scenes are radically
> from what's depicted here in 1916. It took the mile marker on signal
> in yesterday's picture for me to realize that these were scenes from
> where I grew up and went to school! These are shots of the very
> northwestern edge of the Scranton, in the days when there was no I-81,
no Viewmont
> Mall, not even a Route 6 or 11. And this was a new section of the city
> Most of the houses in the neighborhood scenes are probably not much
> than 10-20 years old (my parents house was built in 1904), so there's
very few
> trees, whereas today, there's many.
> C3746 - Assuming the house in the foreground is the same house in
> there was a crossing in front of the house at 1020 Bennett St. that led
> this house and the one back of it. Today, the tracks run where the
> are. There's nothing but woods above the tracks today.
> C3747 - This is a shot of a crossing that didn't exist when I was a
> It went from Bennett St to house(s) across the tracks in C3746. The
> was occupied by woods in the 60s. So now Bob Bahr's theory that these
> pictures were taken because of a crossing issue is very plausible.
> C3748 - Looking up to the Notch (or Leggett's Gap). The houses on the
> right are on Bennett St. This stretch of track was moved to the left to
fit in
> the expressway in 1963.
> C3749 - the hill in the foreground is now the expressway. The houses in
> the foreground are on Oak St. More like Oak path at this point. The
> clustered around Patrick Henry #23 school are on West Market St. The
> Electric trolley line to Clarks Summit, Dalton, Lake Winola, Montrose -

> runs on West Market St. (Ah, if only one were passing through when this
> was taken!)
> C3750 - looking down Seneca St, where it meets Bennett St., down to
> Market St. Some of the houses are the same, but I remember they
> a few houses to fit in the expressway.
> Wow! I will be passing these shots around to some old neighbors. Thanks
> again for doing this Pat!
> Don Liotta
> > Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 04:41:39 -0500
> > Subject: (erielack) Steamtown Images--December 22, 2013 (C3746 thru
> C3750)
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