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Re:(erielack) Scheduled Trains in One Direction



Randy,

Thanks for the definitions.  I guess my question was related to how the equipment/crews managed
to get back to Buffalo to make the scheduled run again.  If it was all one way, Buffalo would
eventually run out of equipment/crews.  However, if the return was done as an extra rather than
as a scheduled run, that would answer my question about the equipment/crew logistics.
However, this leads to a second question, if the train ran from Jamestown to Buffalo as an
extra, how would any potential passengers know when to catch the train?  Or was this done
because they didn't expect any passenger business from Jamestown to Buffalo?

Jon Liles
ELHS # 3158
NMRA # 125464
CVRHS # 195


Definitions help.  A train consists of a locomotive, with or without cars, going from someplace
to someplace under some authority.  It is identified by the presence of marker lamps on the
rear.

Authority can be time table or train order or, I suppose, track warrant or paddle or staff.
Trains are classified into classes.  First class was/is almost always passenger schedules.  The
other classes varied by railroad to accomodate what each thought important.

Extras are non-scheduled trains of any class indicated by white flags or lights on the
locomotive.  Many railroads run/ran all their freight as extras.

Sections are pieces of regularly scheduled trains indicated on all sections except the last one
by green flags or lights on the locomotive.

There were no "return" trains.  Trains originated, they ran, they terminated, they died.  Their
equipment and crews went to other trains, usually not together.

This is sketchy, and I'll bet there will be other responses, but it's a start.

Randy Brown

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jon.liles_@_us.schneider-electric.com wrote:

List,
Just out of curiosity, I noticed in the two ETTs below that the schedule for the Buffalo and
Southwestern Division has three westbound 2nd Class trains but no complimentary eastbound
trains.  Are these trains going back to Buffalo from Jamestown via another railroad?

I believe many railroads made a scheduled train going in one direction, ususally from the
oringinating point.  This allows the train to run without needing any train orders.  The return
trains were run as extras.  Ususally only one train order needed to start the train.  All meets
were made by the timetable.

bob gillis


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