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Re: Re:Re: (erielack) ELHTS

Randy,
 I think what folks like about the O&W is the poor old RR, not so much the
O&W HS although I had a bunch of their bulletins & they were very
interesting. I used to work with a couple of O&W enginemen who'd migrated to
the ERIE or DL&W when the O&W folded & they were great guys. It must have
been HELL working there, though with the bad track, engines, etc.
Regards,
Walt Smith
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From: "Janet & Randy Brown" <jananran_@_mymailstation.com>
To: <erielack_@_lists.railfan.net>
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 7:53 AM
Subject: Re:Re: (erielack) ELHTS


> Will,
>
> I often ask questions to which I really would not know the answer.
They're my best kind.
>
> It was not SGL who gave me the website.  It was someone else who got it
from somewhere.
>
> By failing to publicize your efforts, you may have missed some good input.
>
> Don't you realize that you are doing exactly what you have been
criticising -- a few people, operating in secret?
>
> So -- How's it going?  How much money do you have?  What is its source?
Do you plan a publication?  Who will edit?  Who will contribute?  What else
do you have planned?  Will you buy railroad equipment or property?  Will you
establish archives? Do you have members?  Who are they?
>
> Of course I'm happy with the ELHS.  I wouldn't belong if I weren't.
Perhaps I could be happier, but I'm still waiting for someone to tell me
how. The right to vote won't do it, unless I know why I'm voting.
>
> Maybe I'd be happy with ELHTS.  I won't know until I learn what it does or
will do.  Again, the right to vote is meaningless unless there is a program
for which to vote.
>
> The O&W Historical Society keeps coming up.  What, exactly and
specifically, is it that they do that so enraptures people?
>
> Finally, characterizing The Diamond as a "railfan rag" seems a little hard
on those of us who do contribute.  Checking the list shows that DeYoung's
last contribution was the back cover of vol.17, #1.  The list includes all
the directors and officers except Werthwein and Field, who contribute
mightily in other ways.  It includes few, if any, of the detractors.  What,
specifically, do you want The Diamond to do, and what did Mike Schafer say
when you told him?
>
> My, what a little "leak" will do!
>
> Randy Brown, ELHS#16
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Randy,
>
> Sometimes you ask questions you really would probably not know the  answer
to. Weren't you a happy ELHS subscriber who thought he was a  member before
we stirred up all the trouble with  elections and By-Laws  this past summer?
>
> I suppose it was Schuyler who gave you the web site address, after not
replying to Paul Graf for two weeks, mysteriously within an hour of the
post last night, Schuyler finally responded to Paul. Now what does that
tell you? Honestly. That he could care less until he is forced to do so.
Sorry, but I've seen it happen way too many times for it to be brushed  off
as forgetfulness. It isn't only Schuyler either. It is sadly the  attitude
which pervades the Board.
>
> Frankly, as we all knew, the majority of ELHS subscribers are happy  being
just that. They are happy to have their Diamond which as far as I  am
concerned is turning into a rail fan rag instead of a historical
publication under the guidance of a rather ill informed editor who the
Board has happily abdicated the responsibility to. Whatever you do, do  pick
up a copy of the Milwaukee Road or Rock Island publication AJP puts  out,
you probably will believe you are reading the Diamond. No, handing  over
editorial control of the Diamond was a foolish move, they gave away  the
store when they did that. Do they care? I doubt it, they have long  looked
at it as a troublesome burden to have to deal with.
>
> Oh, and look at our Board...yes you have to give Schuyler credit, one  two
part article in 12 years. What about Larry? He'll sell his articles  to
Trains, but when is the last time he contributed to the Diamond? You  did
the index, you know the answer to that one.
>
> So if you are happy with the ELHS, how it is run and where it is going,
don't ask questions. If you aren't ask and you will receive answers  within
my ability to provide them. I actually hope the latter is the case.
>
> Will
>
>

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