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From: "William E DOT Botkin" webotkin AT ecentral DOT com
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 14:14:46 -0700
Subject: Re: (erielack) On the Fly
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Len and all,

I posted links to four photos of the incidents referred to by Len - the
Chatham run-away caboose that crunched the nose of a GP7 (October 1971) and
the Erie box car that entered the REA building (not the freight house) in
Morristown over the concrete bumper and through the wall (December 1970).

Bill Botkin
Centennial, CO


----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pennisi"
To: "EL Mail List"
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: (erielack) On the Fly


Harvey and Harry Hicks. Ring a bell?

Rich Pennisi

Len VanderJagt wrote:
Wow. Cliff Beckwith. Charlie Murganz. More memories long buried bursting
forth.

I had an 8mm movie of Bob Fuller stalled just west of the trailing points
which out of Great Notch yard with three Alco 425s in total slip load,
looking like a rail grinding train, and crewmen hand placing sand in front
of the slipping wheels. I think that this was an act of destructive
frustration on the part of Bob, who was, shall we say, rather "independent."
Eventually, they doubled the hill.

All of the things everybody did back then seems to break today's rules, one
way or another. I could stir the pot and call today's railroaders pansies,
but I won't do that.

I am trying to remember the name of "Porky", the conductor with an attitude
of the P&D drill, who had a less difficult younger brother who also was a
conductor. DL&W of you guys, lots of stories. Aha-- Ronnie Hicks. Lots of
stories there.

How about switching on the fly at Chatham lumber, and screwing it up, the
caboose rolling down -- hard -- onto the engine.
Anybody on here who remembers who was the conductor that backed the Dover
drill through the Morristown freight house when the brakeman took off for
the donut shop. That is unfair, because the conductor was on the
dispatchers line at the time of impact, so we all heard it. That great
crescendo of a boom, followed by a classic pregnant silence, and then a
single word uttered (you can guess it).

Got to get back to work. Maybe more later.

Len VanderJagt


----- Original Message -----
From: "bob gillis"
To: "EL Mail List"
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: (erielack) On the Fly


>I rewrapped Bill's message so the lines came out right, bob gillis
>
> ShepRail@aol.com wrote:
>> With all this discussion about signal indications around Mountain
>> View and East Lincoln Park, I cannot help but remember how two old
>> Erie hands once handled a situation when an eastbound freight showed
>> up with a train that might bog down on Great Notch grade. In this
>> situation, Hoboken East End Train Dispatcher (Cliff Beckwith) told GL
>> Haul Conductor (Charlie Murganz) to follow right behind the freight
>> from Mountain View with a lite engine and to provide assistance, if
>> necessary. When the conductor asked whether they should couple up and
>> shove the freight over Great Notch, I recall the dispatcher saying,
>> "Charlie, I don't want that train to stop", thereby setting the stage
>> for some drama around Singac.
>>
>> With no further discussion, the GL Haul moved into position behind
>> the freight train immediately after its caboose cleared Mountain View
>> Interlocking and the equilateral turnout was thrown (no waiting for
>> signals to clear). Fast forward five miles to Great Notch about 10
>> minutes later and the head-end of the eastbound freight was observed
>> passing by the depot there with the GL Haul tied on behind, pushing
>> hard. After the head-end crested the grade around Montclair Heights,
>> the GL Haul cut away on the the fly, leaving the freight to continue
>> its trip to tidewater without delay. The GL Haul engine then drifted
>> back down to Great Notch and completed the rest of its chores for the
>> day.
>>
>> And that's the way it was ...
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
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