Re: (erielack) Pushers on Train Number 3 at Denville on a

[Dlw1el2_@_aol.com]

In a message dated 7/23/2011 9:11:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jananran_@_mymailstation.com writes:

Wasn't/isn't it the normal practice to avoid pushers on passenger  trains 
out of respect for the consequences if something happened at the front  end?
 
Correct!



If so, what were the circumstances that allowed it in this  case?  Was it 
to get up the hill to Summit in bad weather?  How far  would the pushers go?  
If they came off at Dover, would more be needed  out of Stroudsburg?  Or 
Scranton?
 
Possibly one unit was down and they couldn't make Summit Hill?   Obviously 
being several hours late only 30 miles from the starting point of the  run, 
they were having BIG troubles that day. This is the only time I ever saw or  
heard of a pusher on a Lackawanna passenger train.   NOT the norm  that's 
for sure. and they couldn't even find a passenger ( boiler ) equipped  unit 
to assist. Wasn't a good day to be a dispatcher either I  suspect.



Did DL&W regularly push passenger trains out of  Scranto, in either 
direction?
 
Heavy passenger trains over the Pocono's always got  pullers.   
 
One summer weekend my parents put me ( at about age 7 or 8 ) on the  Phoebe 
at Dover.  My Grand Parents anxiously awaiting for me at Cresco. I  knew at 
that early age that Cresco was right after E Stroudsburg.  I  remember 
standing in the hallway that rapped around the bath room at the end of  a 300 
class coach the whole trip looking out the window.  The train was  packed.  
Remember a service man, in uniform, walking by asking this little  kid if I 
wanted a seat that was available up by him, but I shook my head  and  was 
content by the window. Plus I was close to the door way and  that way wouldn't 
miss getting off at Cresco. Something that was at the  forefront of my mind 
for the entire trip. :) 
 
Anyway after getting off, I remember my Grand Father saying, You  had a BIG 
train.  There were two blackies on the front to assist  you.  Blackies was 
his way of depicting the Lackawanna's  passenger jeeps, that didn't portray 
the beautiful gray, maroon and yellow  of the Es and Fs 
 
Memories.
 
Bob Bahrs



Inquring minds . . .

Randy  Brown


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