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Re: (erielack) Kodak vs Fuji
Could we please leave the film at Fotomat or for a discussion at club night
and save the bandwith for EL matters. Thank you. HJS
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Holbrook, Douglas W" <douglas.w.holbrook_@_baesystems.com>
To: "Richard Young" <ryoungceo_@_yahoo.com>; <erielack@lists.railfan.net>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 2:11 PM
Subject: RE: (erielack) Kodak vs Fuji
> Assuming they ain't done yet, and if you were Mr. Kodak, where would YOU
put
> your facilities to: 1) manufacture the raw film, 2) cut and package the
raw
> film, 3) distribute packaged film ?? (NAFDA and "off shore" facilities
not
> withstanding) ..... and would you even bother with "non transparency"
film
> products?? I think the film industry is going to get very interesting.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Young [SMTP:ryoungceo_@_yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 13:34
> To: erielack_@_lists.railfan.net
> Subject: (erielack) Kodak vs Fuji
>
> Though I've held my breath for a few days now, I feel
> that I have to chime in.
>
> As credentials go,I have a degree in
> photography,managed two camera stores,and now work as
> the on staff photographer at a graphic arts design
> studio, on average have about three pieces on press
> every week to press check, and have been a railfan
> photographer since I was 6.
>
> My take on this whole thing is that in the last ten
> to fifteen years Kodachrome isn't worth using even as
> streamers at a party. First the proccessing is
> TERRIBLE by outside run sources and after Kodak took
> back the control.(which has nothing to do with the
> film,but has everything to do with the final results)
>
> Second if it is slightly less than an optimum day the
> shots stink,if it is sunny it is has to much contrast.
> (I shoot steam, and all you get is a black blob). I do
> not get a second chance to shoot trains what the
> weather is , is what I am stuck with.
>
> You have very little latitude to the film.
>
> Benefits are it's archivability.
>
> Current Fuji film is far superior as far as true
> color and the latitude of the film allows you to vary
> the saturation to some degree and also shoot in less
> than "perfect" conditions and still get great results.
>
> Yes Fuji leans towards the cooler side (blues,and
> greens) as Kdachrome is a warmer film. Kodak does have
> some warmer ektachrome films which to be honest are in
> between and perferred by myself when shooting 4x5's of
> food in the studio.
>
> Agian film choice is all personal preference to the
> eye of the shooter,and th e techniacal restrictions of
> the lighting and subject.
>
> Debunking Digital vs Film :
>
> Scanning of transparencies can be does in a higher
> resolution than the film. Its the cost of the
> machinery and size of the final files. Current home
> scanners don't have the technology to do it ( NOT YET
> anyways),but that will surely come. Most people don't
> have 800 meg and up to dedicate to one shot,nor can a
> home scanners produce that type of resolution.
>
> Once a digital file is created you can save it to
> WHATEVER format is the flavor of the month and be
> transferred to the new technology with out any
> information loss to the newer technology. It is only
> limited to the technology it was created in. Newer
> better formats are the reason why we are listening to
> cd's/dvd's instead of 8 tracks,and would anybody want
> to go back. This is an industry driven by technology
> not a Roman War Horse,every day there is new and
> better technology and the the high end of today is the
> pro/am of tomarrow,and the average use after that.
>
> I'll take a custom darkroom print ( B&W or Color) over
> anything pumped out of a printer any day. That right
> there is my biggest draw back to digital photography
> and probebly always will be. Real prints look better.
> As for printing. Almost all professionally printed
> pieces are scanned and color adjusted digitally in
> Photoshop or equivelent. And all high quality presses
> have the ability to laydown far more ink than needed
> to adjust a 4/color separated photo to the clients
> liking without a second run. You would nevr be able to
> get the registration correct on a second pass just to
> laydown more color for a 4/color photoand the olny
> printers I know doing second passes on 4/color
> proccess are ones the only have two or three ink wells
> and have to run it through twice to get four colors
> down. Second passes ,if needed,are for solid pms
> colors used for some sort of graphics or for coatings
> process. Not for color adjustment.
>
>
>
>
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