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Re: (erielack) The Horsey, Susie and the Mounties Was Re: Is the Erie east ofBingo next?
It should be real interesting, it is congested now. Old DL&W Conklin Yard
has been reworked and upgraded, but still proves to be a bottle neck
sometimes. At the present the only passing sidings between Conklin and
Taylor Yards is at Hop Bottom & one more at Taylor, which is usually busy
with drops & pickups. There is one additional siding at Nescopeck on the old
PRR. CP does have plans for an additional siding at Clarks Summit, but that
is awaiting Penn DOT capital budget funding.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert John Davis" <trains_@_robertjohndavis.com>
To: "Paul R. Tupaczewski" <paultup_@_lucent.com>; "Tom Beckett"
<tabeckett_@_stny.rr.com>; <intercityrailpal@netscape.net>;
<erielack_@_lists.railfan.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 2:56 PM
Subject: (erielack) The Horsey, Susie and the Mounties Was Re: Is the Erie
east ofBingo next?
> On 7/11/02 8:44 AM, "Tupaczewski, Paul R (Paul)" <paultup_@_lucent.com>
wrote:
>
> > No one has yet answered how traffic will get from Scranton to Bingo,
though.
> > Trackage rights over CP?
>
>
> Yes, that's the deal signed last week.
>
> The Susie-Q conjecture is interesting, but the scene is so much different
> now. Back in Susie's stack days, she was the Conrail monopoly breaker.
There
> clearly is not enough east-west traffic to fill CP, NS and CSX to the
limit.
> I doubt there's a need for an "alphabet route" again.
>
> Plus, the traffic NS is talking about moving via the D&H is primarily
bound
> to Canada via Buffalo. It's northwest-southeast/east traffic. It's traffic
> CP may be a in a position to siphon.
>
> You might see Susie-Q's Syracuse line act up if NS can convince CN to turn
> over the traffic that runs via Massena and Selkirk to them. Or to change
the
> interchange of the current Buffalo traffic to Syracuse.
>
> One final bit of total conjecture: New York City has essentially blocked
any
> effort to run freight, even RoadRailers, through Penn Station. The D&H
> trackage rights deal essentially extends the NS's Shenandoah Line from
> Harrisburg all the way to Mickeyville and the Guilford. So, perhaps the
> first new service we may see is the horsey's RoadRailers linking Albany
and
> Boston with Atlanta? Makes sense. Boston is still stack-challenged in many
> places.
>
> The other benefit? CSX's route to Boston from the south isn't much shorter
> and it has to deal with North Jersey congestion. NS can glide through
> Harrisburg and never have their Boston traffic touch Conrail Shared Assets
> rails. NS might be able to make a play against I-95 in this service lane
> (which I do think will be extended to Montreal ASAP).
>
> The other thing to remember is that for all their be-atch-in' and cryin',
> Guilford conned the government into rebuilding their freight mains between
> Mechanicville - Hoosick Junction and Woburn - Portland, ME for Amtrak.
It's
> a pretty good line all the way into paper country. Kaolin, anybody?
>
> This is a lot of information about non-EL lines, I know. But whatever
> happens, we know the DL&W will be in the center of it for 60 odd miles!
>
>
> Rob
>
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>
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