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RE: (erielack) The EL Hot 100...number 5!
Pat,
The Athearn 85’ flat is an F85b, which has an S-channel, which really isn’t suitable as the F85c is a C-channel. The other C-channel car available for KB is the F89f, available as the Athearn or Walthers models; the former is preferable due to its better detail. It’s not just a matter of shortening the deck by 4’ since the F89f deck is 4” wider (8’6” vs 8’2”), with molded-in guide rails along the inside channel (Athearn version). Here’s a better suggestion: use the F89f to KB the lookalike F85f, which has the wider deck and guide rails. You would need to add the tie-down bars.
Paul B
From: Patrick Moore [mailto:pat.moore_@_att.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 8:41 AM
To: doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net; EL Mail List
Subject: Re: (erielack) The EL Hot 100...number 5!
Thanks, Paul.
Any thoughts on how one might go about modeling one of these cars? They look similar to the Athearn 85' flat.
- -pat
On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 12:08 AM, Paul Brezicki <doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net> wrote:
BSC came late to the long-flat party with its 85' car of 1960. TT assigned
Class F85c. They were very similar to the ACF F85a, with C-channel sidesill
and initial production with above-sill tie-down plate. By late 1960, BSC
also switched to tie-down bars within the web of the C-channel. Most cars
were assigned to TOFC service, the balance received trilevel racks (RTTX).
Other buyers included SOO Line (20 cars), SP (100 cars leased to PFE) and EL
(100 cars). EL's fleet was unique in that the hitches were reversed such
that the trailers "faced" the "A"-end rather than the "B"-end. These cars
were conveyed to TT in 1963 when EL joined the flatcar pool, becoming TTX
102507-102605, numbers embedded in the F85f series. The F85f superseded the
F85c in 1963, the chief difference was slightly wider 8'6" deck vs the 8'2"
of the F85c.
The car in the photo is a Phase-2 with tie-down bar. Tank trailers were not
routinely handled as TOFC loads, but on occasion, brand-new tankers rode
flatcars from the manufacturer, as was the case here: note the plywood
sheets banded to the control panels. They had to be circus-loaded, as there
were no structural members to enable mechanized loading.
Paul B
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 04:41:18 +0000 (UTC)
From: Patrick Moore <pat.moore_@_att.net <mailto:pat.moore@attnet> >
Subject: (erielack) The EL Hot 100...number 5!
List...
At number five, with 208 examples in the database, we have another
intermodal flat car...
TTX 100000 - 102287...an 85' flat car built by Bethlehem Steel Car for
Trailer Train, in their class F85c.
Picture...
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/ttx/ttx101378akg.jpg
Locations...
Systemwide, but mainly in intermodal trains from Chicago to Croxton, NJ.
Model...
None.
- - -pat
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